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Material World: Using resources sustainably in a time of planetary crises


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Material World: Using resources sustainably in a time of planetary crises

Fourteenth episode of the podcast "Green Deal – Big Deal?"


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In this episode of "Green Deal – Big Deal?", we tackle the complex world of natural resources, a topic that underpins many aspects of Europe's ambition for a green future.

In conversation with guests Florika Fink-Hooijer, Director-General of European Commission’s DG Environment, and Janez Potočnik, Co-chair of the International Resources Panel, hosts Ewa Iwaszuk and Aaron Best discuss how the use of natural resources is closely linked to the climate and biodiversity crises, highlighting the global nature of resource use and its impacts.

The episode touches on the European Green Deal's approach to resource management, emphasizing the need for a systemic perspective that considers the interconnectedness of resource use, environmental impacts, and economic activity. Florika Fink-Hooijer shares her views on the importance of understanding the links between climate change, biodiversity loss, pollution, and resource depletion and advocates for sustainable and efficient resource use and extraction as a means to tackle these interconnected challenges.

Janez Potočnik provides a global perspective on the issue, discussing the work of the International Resources Panel and the upcoming Global Resource Outlook. He stresses the importance of a systems-based approach to address resource challenges, moving beyond GDP growth as a measure of success to focus on meeting human needs more efficiently and sustainably.

The conversation also explores the European Union's role in leading global resource policy and the circular economy. We discuss the geopolitical and economic implications of resource scarcity, the importance of resilience and sustainability in policy making, and the potential of the European Green Deal to inspire global action towards a more sustainable use of resources. Finally, the episode addresses the critical role of global cooperation in managing resources, highlighting the need for policies that support sustainable development and ensure that resource use is aligned with environmental goals.

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Concept and Content: Aaron Best, Ewa Iwaszuk (Ecologic Institute)
Technical implementation and Communication: Chiara Mazzetti (Ecologic Institute)
Sound: Lena Aebli (Ecologic Institute)
Hosts: Aaron Best, Ewa Iwaszuk (Ecologic Institute)
Interview partners: Florika Fink-Hooijer (European Commission’s DG Environment) and Janez Potočnik (International Resources Panel)

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51:02 min
Project ID
Resources, Climate change